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How-To Successfully Install Latest Windows Live Writer Beta

Today when I launched Windows Live Writer I was prompted to install the latest beta from Windows Live.  (FYI – Windows Live Writer is an Free Offline Blogging tool similar to Microsoft Word which allows you to Write Blog Posts / Articles – just like the one your reading now – and then upload the Posts to your Blog/Website.  Very slick tool if you have a Blog or SharePoint site).  Anyway, I was running build – Technical Preview 14.0.3913.522 and being that the new build being offered was – Beta 14.0.5025.904 I figured hey, why not!  What could go wrong? 

Well…  quite a bit actually.  The first try the install took about 15 minutes and then my Hard Drive filled up (despite the fact I started with 6 Gigs of space…  about…).  After the drive was full, the installer died.  My second try I freed up some space only to have my Hard Drive fill up again (Hey… didn’t I just free-up 2 gigs of drive space??  How much space does this new Live Writer need anyway???).   After realizing there must be a MAJOR bug in the 14.0.5025.904 installer, I finally managed to get everything installed once I figured out what the installer was doing.

What was it doing and how did I fix it? 

Well I’m glad you asked!!!  :)  Let’s take a step back and discuss the play-by-play.

Tip: If you want to skip the insanity from Microsoft – Skip to the bottom “Problem Solved” for the fix to the Installer Bug.


Where is Live Writer?  Microsoft?  Google?

So, where was I…  Oh yeah, I launched Windows Live Writer to write a “GROOVY How-To Tutorial about How to lost complete control of all data by using Google Services” when I was prompted to install the latest build of Windows Live Writer.  Rather than just click “Upgrade”, I figured I would first do some searching around to make sure I was being offered the “Latest” version.  One thing I learned over the last year working with Windows Live Writer is they still have a LONG way when it comes to releases.

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So I opened up GOOGLE and did a search for Live Writer.


Image of Google Search Results for Windows Live Writer


Windows Live Writer 2008 Download Page The first Link – must be the right link right? Nope…  I logged onto a test box and tried out the link.  The link took me to a page that LOOKED right but it was WRONG.  I clicked the Get it Free button and it prompted me to download WLinstaller.exe.  So, thinking this must be it I downloaded it and ran the installer.  Unfortunately, this installed a REALLY old version of the software – Windows Live Writer Version 2008 (Build 12.0.1366.1026).  Granted, this is probably the last “GOLD” version but, it is far from Version 14.x I’m looking for.


Windows Live Writer 2008 Download Page The next Link – time I get a fancy page from Windows Live with another Button – Get it now.   So I figure this MUST be it and I click on it.  This time it makes me login with a Windows Live account.  After I login, I get a Download now button which prompts me to download WLinstaller.exe again.  So I grab my test box again and download the installer.  Sure enough, I get Build 12.0.1366.1026 again.  Ok…   Now I get it.  This must be the GOLD version they want people to release.  I must have been running a BETA version on my production box (Build 14.0.3913.522).  Didn’t realize that…  Ok, I’ll hit the blog and see what I can find!


So, I hit the Windows Live Writer Blog and the first thing I notice is the people keeping the Blog up-to-date Image of Windows Live Writer Blog showing 2 Differet Builds available for Download must be a bit confused which version they want us all to install.  Right there on the top of the Team Blog page is 2 different versions of the Windows Live Writer…  Hmm, perhaps they just “missed it”?  Perhaps they don’t realize how confusing this all is by having 3, 4, 5 different sites just to get a copy of Windows Live Writer.  Or perhaps they need a release manager.  That’s my bet!

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Anyway, I figured I should probably go with the latest version (beta) so I click on the Download button to the latest beta and after being redirected to yet another site…  I downloaded wlsetup-web.exe from the and began the install process.  (More specifically – Build 14.0.5025.904 location)


The Problem  (Only appears to Repro on Windows XP Machines)

The installer asked if I wanted all the other Live Beta Software and I said no…  “I NEED TO WRITE A NEW GROOVY HOW-TO ARTICLE BEFORE I GET TO TIRED!”.  So after selecting just the Live Writer Upgrade, the installer was off and running!  And Running!  And running…  After about 15 minutes I received a Pop-up that my C: drive was almost out of Hard Drive Space. 


HUH?  That’s odd…  I could have swore I had plenty of space.  Odd…?  I opened up Windows Explorer and found my C: Drive only had 180 Megs of drive space left!  Wow!  That’s not good.  I spent the next 10 minutes cleaning things up and blowing away old downloads (and other junk) and kicked off the installer again with 2+ gigs of free space.


This time I watched my Drive Space and sure enough, within about 2 minutes I was back down to 150 megs of free space and the installer once again died.  Really weird…   Either Live Writer is downloading data like a banshee (  I have Verizon FIOS so things move very quickly!) or it’s copying a bunch of temp files somewhere.  Fortunately, having just wrote an , I knew it would take just a few minutes to find out where all my space was going.

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Problem Solved

TreeSize Image Displaying Hard Drive Usage Report Sure enough, after kicking up TreeSize, I ran a report and found that each time I ran the Windows Live Writer Installer, it copied ALL files and folders sitting in my Desktop Folder (c:documents and settingsmrgroovedesktop) folder into a temporary folder (C:Documents and SettingsskrauseLocal SettingsTemp100322000000163c2t6uk1qz5qlocated).

This explained why my drive kept filling up.  Since I ran the installer twice, I had 2 temp folders which contained duplicates of my Desktop Folder.  Well… almost duplicates because my drive filled up before the copy could finish which explains why the installer died. 


With this new info, I deleted the TEMP folders (about 8 gigs of data) and moved the 5 GIGS of photos from my Desktop folder to another drive and kicked off the installer again.  This time, only 700 MEGS was copied (see screen shot 2 above) to the TEMP folder and since I had 8 GIGS free the copy finished and the installer completed!  Microsoft Live Writer 14.0.5025.904 was installed and ready to roll 🙂


So, I have no idea why the installer feels it must copy the Desktop Folder into a Temp fodler but, if you have the same problems I did (Install takes a LONG time, drive runs out of space, install aborts) you probably have a lot of data in your Desktop folder that you need to clean up.  Clean that up, go delete the data in the TEMP folder Windows Live Writer created and kick it off again.  You should be good.


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4 Responses to How-To Successfully Install Latest Windows Live Writer Beta

  1. Torley October 4, 2008 at 8:04 am #

    What a thorough investigation.

    Thanks for investigating this — I didn’t delete my temp folder and didn’t run into the “hard drive fills up” prob, but I DID uninstall the previous Live Writer, then try the new installer.

    Worked a charm. 🙂

  2. Legosy October 7, 2008 at 12:02 am #

    THANK YOU!!!

    Although I didn’t have a problem installing on Vista, I did have much confusion knowing WHICH version to download! I went ahead and Download the live writer here:!D85741BB5E0BE8AA!1533.entry


  3. Crew October 16, 2008 at 8:23 pm #

    Yeah it can be pretty confusing, infact the two installer files from microsoft even share very similar names.
    “WLinstaller.exe” is the stable older installer
    “wlsetup-web.exe” is the latest beta version installer (the beta seems just as stable)

    Luckily the more recent one will tell you that the programs it will download/install for you are beta, however it still doesn’t tell you what version is installing.
    I looked but there isn’t a reliable direct download for live writer. So just pay attention to make sure you’re using the beta. Another attempt of Microsoft to make things “idiot proof” …

  4. karma February 9, 2009 at 9:41 pm #

    i ve only old version of msn. so please update the latest version of msn in my computer.

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